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PostPosted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 7:28 pm 
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A Free-for-All on Science and Religion

By GEORGE JOHNSON - Published: November 21, 2006

Maybe the pivotal moment came when Steven Weinberg, a Nobel laureate in physics, warned that “the world needs to wake up from its long nightmare of religious belief,” or when a Nobelist in chemistry, Sir Harold Kroto, called for the John Templeton Foundation to give its next $1.5 million prize for “progress in spiritual discoveries” to an atheist — Richard Dawkins, the Oxford evolutionary biologist whose book “The God Delusion” is a national best-seller.

Or perhaps the turning point occurred at a more solemn moment, when Neil deGrasse Tyson, director of the Hayden Planetarium in New York City and an adviser to the Bush administration on space exploration, hushed the audience with heartbreaking photographs of newborns misshapen by birth defects — testimony, he suggested, that blind nature, not an intelligent overseer, is in control.

Somewhere along the way, a forum this month at the Salk Institute for Biological Studies in La Jolla, Calif., which might have been one more polite dialogue between science and religion, began to resemble the founding convention for a political party built on a single plank: in a world dangerously charged with ideology, science needs to take on an evangelical role, vying with religion as teller of the greatest story ever told.

Carolyn Porco, a senior research scientist at the Space Science Institute in Boulder, Colo., called, half in jest, for the establishment of an alternative church, with Dr. Tyson, whose powerful celebration of scientific discovery had the force and cadence of a good sermon, as its first minister.

She was not entirely kidding. “We should let the success of the religious formula guide us,” Dr. Porco said. “Let’s teach our children from a very young age about the story of the universe and its incredible richness and beauty. It is already so much more glorious and awesome — and even comforting — than anything offered by any scripture or God concept I know.”

She displayed a picture taken by the Cassini spacecraft of Saturn and its glowing rings eclipsing the Sun, revealing in the shadow a barely noticeable speck called Earth.

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I'll agree that the apparent goal of organized religion is to scare people into behaving, conforming, and giving up their money.

I do think it a leap, however, for the same scientists who can't tell why a corpse is lighter than a living being, can't account for most of the mass in the universe, or what happened before their Big Bang to discount the unproven.

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I'll never understand why Creationism and Evolution have to be an "Either/Or" type thing. I've always seen them as complementing each other, giving a reason behind each other.


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Primus wrote:
I'll never understand why Creationism and Evolution have to be an "Either/Or" type thing. I've always seen them as complementing each other, giving a reason behind each other.


I'm with you on that.

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Primus wrote:
I'll never understand why Creationism and Evolution have to be an "Either/Or" type thing. I've always seen them as complementing each other, giving a reason behind each other.


Me too.

. . . but then Either / Or - - about most things is a pet peeve of mine

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