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Evil is the lack of love and fellow feeling....it is giving oneself permission to step outside the boundaries of your social order and disrupt the well being of others, there is no rhyme or reason to it......it is the other side of the coin.


Let's say that you find a serial killer living next door. They have a family and kids, the whole nine yards. The police won't do anything about it, if you take the law into your own hands and off them, is that evil? After all they have a family that loves them.

No offense in what you say, I just want your opinion on it. I just don't think evil is a black and white issue like we wish it was.

Hummmm....I have often pondered the role of the avenger, It seems noble, on the face of it but I think it would come at a great personal cost.......by taking such an action, you may become what you despise. In the end..the dark stain it leaves on you could be worse than the threat you perceived from your neighbor.


The "Avenger" is an interesting study.

Clint Eastwood made at least two movies on this theme - Pale Rider and High Plains Drifter. In both movies, we was an "avenging angel", coming back to kill those who had killed him. He was also a damaged character - raping, fornicating, drinking and stealing his way to redemption as the stranger/preacher.

Loved the flicks!

Another thought - at least in the American West, lawmen were often on the wrong side of the law at some point. It may take a "criminal type" to catch a "criminal type". Not a solution to endorse, but a working solution, none the less.

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Who cares, anyway? Just do the right thing, not because we're afraid of Zeus, but because it's the right thing to do. It's called character.



I think one day, I might have to use this quote in my signature! What a great quote!!

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Who cares, anyway? Just do the right thing, not because we're afraid of Zeus, but because it's the right thing to do. It's called character.



I think one day, I might have to use this quote in my signature! What a great quote!!


You don't even have to steal it - I'll give it to ya!

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Austin Nichols wrote:
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Who cares, anyway? Just do the right thing, not because we're afraid of Zeus, but because it's the right thing to do. It's called character.



I think one day, I might have to use this quote in my signature! What a great quote!!


You don't even have to steal it - I'll give it to ya!


Cool! Thanks! 8)

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Im as of late less and less believing in a god anyway. small g intentional.


Whats more fascinating on the "do the right thing" topic is a paper i recently read on altruism. It basically said...(paraphrasing)


taking care of others, helping out the community, caring for the elderly and the sick and injured....came into being possibly as a means to help communities wage war. You read that right. Its hypothesis was that if you knew there was a better chance that if you were injured youd be cared for, or if you died your family would be cared for...then your group(village, community) would be more willing to wage war on the neighboring community who doesnt do that.

It was interesting.


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Im as of late less and less believing in a god anyway. small g intentional.


Whats more fascinating on the "do the right thing" topic is a paper i recently read on altruism. It basically said...(paraphrasing)


taking care of others, helping out the community, caring for the elderly and the sick and injured....came into being possibly as a means to help communities wage war. You read that right. Its hypothesis was that if you knew there was a better chance that if you were injured youd be cared for, or if you died your family would be cared for...then your group(village, community) would be more willing to wage war on the neighboring community who doesnt do that.

It was interesting.


how far back did the research go? I'm willing to believe it's a benefit - not so sure that it's a reason

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Im not a specialist in this, but i believe it was cromagnon/neanderthal,....so maybe 35k to 100,000 years. They based it on injuries to bones and which groups obviously cared for and helped the injured from what would have been otherwise fatal injuries.


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The Riddle of Epicurus

Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God?





Just to speak on the original post for a minute. It sounds like typical religious propaganda. What "well-known institution of higher learning"? What professor? It reminds me of the fables of Einstein's belief in god and Darwin's deathbed conversion. They are simply made up in such a way as to be almost believable.

In this case, it is a way to discredit university-professor-atheists in general by making them out to be bumbling fools, out whited by the god-loving students. Wouldn't a professor at a "well-known institution of higher learning" know the definitions of cold and darkness?


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Evil is another mask of primacy, one "evil" act or ideal is another's justice. Evil exists Not as theological Opposer of the righteous, nor as a phenomenon to be avoided via metaphysical dichotomy; rather, evil is an essential archetype of the omneity of the Soul that is severed in the fantasy of evil as privation and personification. Evil in the human condition lies solely in perception and abstractivity, which exceed religion. Evil is an existential metaphor, enshrouded by privation and noumena. The whole question of evil is semantically meaningless. It is a theological construct of monosexual, ethnic religion. By ethnics I mean the Judeo-Christian paradigm, the first to truly attach moral certitude to theodicy.

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To a wolf, is it evil if he savages a deer? No. Is it evil if he savages another member of his pack? Yes. So if we are uninvolved with another person we do not believe it is evil to harm them. But if all humanity is one...

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